00:00 Speaker A
Those rising tensions, uh, Peter Pentagon, humanity, both sides, it looks like they’re digging in before this uh this 5:00 PM deadline. OpenAI, you see them waiting to fight, kind of siding with humans, you know, that seems to be where Peter draws the red line in terms of using AI for home surveillance and autonomous lethal weapons. You are what you make of the big story.
00:23 peter
It’s a remarkable story, right? I mean, it tells you that the Trump administration is willing to pick a fight with an American company. They’ve done this many times, but this is a very important AI company. Um,
00:43 peter
The fact that Anthropic is willing to take on the Department of Defense is also extraordinary, given that nearly every other tech company and most of America’s largest corporations have decided to align themselves with the Trump administration rather than fight it. So it’s amazing. They couldn’t even agree on what they were arguing about.
01:07 peter
Well, it’s a story you hear all the time from the Department of Defense, and it’s been reported on by both The Semaphore and The Washington Post. I’ve heard this myself this week that humans have no idea what they’re doing, so they develop the technology and sell it to the Department of Defense, but they want to control how it’s used, including the theoretical uh uh uh scenario where a missile is launched at the United States and the United States has to scramble within seconds to counter it. And according to this theory, uh, Anthropic needs to ask for advice
01:40 peter
See if their technology works. By the way, Anthropic says this story never happened. So these two really can’t decide what they’re arguing about. I don’t know how things will turn out. I don’t think Anthropic is seen as the worst thing in the world, one being a big company fighting against the Trump administration and the other being a company fighting for AA.
02:05 peter
There is some sort of moral compass to what they do. Well, if you assume that Anthropic will be around for a few years, and possibly have a different government, it might not be the worst thing for them to make this claim. Of course, they want the business that comes from selling your information to the Department of Defense.