Dave Ramsey tells woman with 4 degrees, 6-figure salary and $628,000 debt she fell for a lie. Here’s what he advises

Dave Ramsey told a 45-year-old Chicago woman with four college degrees, an annual salary of $115,000 and $628,000 in debt that she was being scammed.

Single mother Sandra gets the call ramsay show Seeking guidance on how to address her debt problems, which included a $335,000 mortgage, $33,000 in credit card debt and $260,000 in student loans.

“It sounds like you believed the lie that if I got an education, people would give me money, but they won’t,” he said, noting that her salary was not enough to justify her academic level(1).

Sandra had to come up with two undergraduate degrees (in biological sciences and English) and two master’s degrees in library science and intellectual property law to pay off her student debt.

and engage in legal research. Until six months ago, Sandra was earning $25,000 a year from her side job as a library consultant, but Ken Coleman says public libraries are a dead-end career anyway.

Ramsey was surprised she wasn’t a lawyer, since she has a degree in intellectual property law.

“Can’t you go sit at the bar?” he asked.

Sandra responded that she wasn’t sure and she would have to research it.

“You got a research degree,” quipped co-host Ken Coleman. “You should probably look into that.”

That’s what Ramsey and Coleman agreed she needed to do.

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Ramsay and Coleman said Sandra needed to make “big money” if she wanted to have a chance of getting out of trouble.

“If we can find a way to apply that education so that you make more money, then you have a lot of education and therefore a lot of upside potential in your earnings,” Ramsey said. “That’s what you need. More money, not more degrees. You collect more degrees than a thermometer.”

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Ramsey warns that a degree is meaningless if the job market doesn’t require the skills you learn.

“The knowledge you gain when you get a degree — knowledge is huge power now, assuming that’s the knowledge the market wants.”

Ramsey and Coleman suggested that Sandra aim to pass the bar exam and become an attorney, potentially earning $300,000 a year.

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